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  • mistermuse 6:11 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Clarence Darrow, , , half-truths, , , , , , , truth,   

    WHERE THE TRUTH LIES 

    lie, n. a false statement known to be false by the person who makes it.
    liev. to be in a horizontal or flat position; to exist; have its place.  –World Book Dictionary

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    So, where does the truth lie? Attempts to address that question, it seems to me, lie in the assumption that we know objectively what truth is. Should we settle for the negative defining of truth as being the opposite of “lie, n“? I don’t know that most of us want to — or need to — go deeper into the jungle of truth than that, but if you’re of a mind to take the path of beast resistance, you can start here:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201808/what-is-truth

    In our dystopian sub-culture of “fake news,” half-truths, whole-cloth fabrications and false narratives in which truth is what President Trump says it is and science is fiction, it isn’t always simple to disentangle truth from the deluge of prevarication and misrepresentations which is Trump’s stock in trade  — and he knows it. Who can fact check it all fast enough? The old saying remains relevant: “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.”

    And speaking of quotes which remain relevant, try these on for wise:

    Carlyle said, “A lie cannot live.” It shows he did not know how to tell them. –Mark Twain

    If at first you’re not believed, lie, lie again.–Evan Esar (not Trump, believe it or not)

    The pursuit of truth shall set you free, even if you never catch up with it. –Clarence Darrow

    It is twice as hard to crush a half-truth as a whole lie. –Austin O’Malley

    Truth is more important than facts. –Frank Lloyd Wright

    All men are born truthful and die liars. –Marquis de Vauvenargues

    And so it goes. Would I lie to you?

     

     
    • calmkate 6:24 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      well I was hoping for a glimmer of truth but am sadly disappointed .. 😦

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      • mistermuse 6:37 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Well, you can always fall back on Trump — there may be “a glimmer of truth” somewhere in his deep, dark past.

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        • calmkate 6:38 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink

          somehow doubt that … hope his parents have passed, how humiliating to have given birth to that …

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        • mistermuse 6:49 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink

          His late father would be proud, not humiliated. ‘Like father, like son,’ by all accounts (including the new book by The Donald’s niece, Mary Trump).

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    • obbverse 7:02 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      The Trump Hound- mouth of a Rottweiler, brain of a Shi Tzu. Temperament? Whiney, disloyal lazy, comfortable to simply lay around the House and lie, lie lie and lie. Barking? Mad.

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    • magickmermaid 7:07 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      If someone proves to be a liar in one instance, then I find it extremely difficult to believe anything else they may say. Resist the beast! 🙂

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    • obbverse 8:34 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Since he sticks in my craw can I spit out another?
      Bad mad dogs of his kind
      Growlingly protect their address,
      When evicted they sure do leave behind
      Nothing but a nasty mess.

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      • mistermuse 10:40 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        There’s no guarantee he’ll leave —
        He has many tricks up his sleeve.
        Who knows what deviltry he’ll try?
        We only know it’ll be a monstrous lie.

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    • Rebecca Wallick 10:16 pm on July 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Thirty-plus years in the legal profession taught me this truth: almost everyone lies, with a straight face, even after swearing an oath to tell the truth.

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      • mistermuse 12:25 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        According to Mark Twain (and others), there are three kinds of lies: LIES, DAMNED LIES, AND STATISTICS. I don’t know about the legal profession, but I think it’s safe to say the political profession encompasses all three. Oddly enough, no one mentioned the fourth (and saddest) kind of lie:

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    • jilldennison 1:11 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Politically, there is a very simple way to separate fact from fiction, truth from lie. If Donald Trump or ANY of his hand-picked sycophants say it, it is a lie. I think that for tonight I shall have to pass on the path of beast resistance, for my mental acuity is about fried. Perhaps tomorrow!

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      • mistermuse 3:42 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        You ain’t lyin’, Jill.
        And I don’t blame you for passing on the path of beast resistance if you’re mental acuity is fried, because it’s a lot to digest. 😉

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    • masercot 4:54 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      The only acceptable lies are on the golf course.

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    • Rivergirl 7:33 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Though I constantly call him a moron, his one clever move was to undermine faith in the media, journalism and the news in general. Alternative truth has served him well.
      😡

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      • mistermuse 8:24 am on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        No doubt he has a certain amount of ‘street smarts,’ but no doubt the road to hell is jammed with big talkers.

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    • D. Wallace Peach 2:39 pm on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      What a fun post. This one needs a late night and a few bottles of wine. Almost everything is subjective, right? So we each will have our own versions of truth even when we are committed to the concept. It seems to me, that humans are best served by getting as close to the truth as we can and peeling away the lies whenever possible. Just ask the poor souls who believed Trump’s lies about the virus.

      I’m not sure that Trump actually believes he’s lying. His narcissistic personality borders on psychosis and it’s impossible for him to not be perfect. The mere idea that he might have a flaw feels like annihilation, which is why he reacts so viciously or ridiculously lies. He’s learned over the years to manipulate others so he never has to be imperfect. I can’t wait until he’s gone.

      Great quotes too!

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      • mistermuse 3:19 pm on July 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks, Diana. I think you’ve ‘psychoanalyzed’ Trump perfectly. From what I hear of TOO MUCH AND NEVER ENOUGH, the new book about Trump by his niece Mary Trump (a professional psychologist), her diagnosis is much the same. The election can’t come soon enough.

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        • D. Wallace Peach 4:06 pm on July 23, 2020 Permalink

          No, it can’t. What he’s doing in Portland is outrageous. What I want to know is where are all the 2nd Amendment rights militias who are supposed to be saving us from our government’s oversteps??? (Not really, but isn’t this why they say they need their guns?)
          Gah! You can get me ranting for hours. Lol

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    • arekhill1 1:23 pm on July 26, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      A liar will be the first to accuse you of lying. My contribution to the literature of mendaciousness, Sr. Muse.

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      • mistermuse 3:27 pm on July 26, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        I’d recommend that Trump reflect on your comment, Ricardo, but the guy (who claims he knows more than anyone) wouldn’t know the meaning of mendaciousness

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  • mistermuse 12:00 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Blaise Pascal, Erica Jong, , Lenin, , , opera, , , truth,   

    TRUTH BE TOLD….so it is said 

    When I come across a quote I love, and which is so true that it hits home (home being where the heart is), I often tell Cupid to get lost while I grab a pen, because in my heart….

    Yes, I want to be alone so I can write down said truth on whatever scrap of paper is handy before I get distracted and forget it….even then, I often don’t recall where I left that lovely quote, and Cupid will call me stupid (but then, aren’t we all when Cupid is involved?).

    Anyway, I haven’t written a post since I got home from the (soap) opera six days of our lives ago, so today I thought I’d seek out and gather up some of the bold and beautiful quotations I misplaced, for you alone (you ARE alone, aren’t you?):

    I don’t want to be alone, I want to be left alone.” –Audrey Hepburn, actress

    “In Genesis, it says that it is not good for a man to be alone, but sometimes it is a great relief. –John Barrymore, actor

    “Solitude is un-American.” –Erica Jong, novelist and poet

    All men’s miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone.” –Blaise Pascal, writer, inventor, and theologian

    “The trouble with opera in the United States is that it is trying to sell caviar to a hamburger-eating country.” –Helen Traubel, opera singer

    “Opera: a play about life in another world whose inhabitants have no speech but song, no motions but gestures, and no postures but attitudes.” –Ambrose Bierce

    Opera: where anything that is too stupid to be spoken, is sung.” –Voltaire

    Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.” –Aldous Huxley

    It’s no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.” –Mark Twain

    There is a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure the truth.” –Maya Angelou

    I will close with a timely quote in which the words alone, opera, and truth do not appear….but I would say that truer words were never spoken (despite who said them):
    “Democracy counts heads without regard to what’s in them.” –Lenin

     

     

     
    • Garfield Hug 12:38 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I loved your quotes herein Mistermuse! Good share and always nice to read your posts. Looks like you must watch more soap (operas) to encourage you to pen more, on whatever scraps of paper – Hmm even gum wrappers perhaps? 😉

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    • mistermuse 1:43 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t watch soap operas, GH, but my wife and daughters did years ago, and I got a whiff of a few of them in passing. These days, just following the intrigues of Trump and his cast of sycophants is like watching a soap opera — a VERY BAD soap opera.

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    • blindzanygirl 2:02 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Great quotes. Some of them made me giggle. And anything that makes me giggle at 4 o’ clock in the morning MUST be good!

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      • mistermuse 10:14 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        I’m never up at 4 o’clock in the morning unless nature calls — which doesn’t make me giggle (though I may end up with a jiggle).

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        • blindzanygirl 10:20 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink

          Lol mistermuse. I usually wake up at 4 a.m. for a wee, then can’t get back to sleep again! So I rebd to come in here!

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    • calmkate 3:06 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      lol great collection of misplaced quotes! I also had a giggle all alone 😎
      but then my neighbour came knocking to ask what was the matter … lol
      sadly I loathe opera with a passion so some of these were written for me!

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    • obbverse 3:55 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Mr Twain nails it again And should life give you Lenin, make a Collective.

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      • mistermuse 10:28 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Life has given the country a “Lenin” with Trump, and needs a collective of enough voters to make the November election his last stand.

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    • Rivergirl 9:03 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I enjoy being alone. Why wouldn’t I? I’m marvelous company…
      😉

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      • mistermuse 10:33 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Absolutely, Rg — you and the rocks (non-followers of Rivergirl’s blog will have to go there to get that). 😉

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    • Yeah, Another Blogger 9:24 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Great quotes. Voltaire’s is hilarious.

      Neil S.

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    • mistermuse 10:40 am on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I agree. “Boogie! Boogie! Boogie!” (to quote Groucho Marx in A NIGHT AT THE OPERA).

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    • magickmermaid 12:18 pm on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Although I have to disagree with Voltaire, I like all the other quotes. 🙂

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      • mistermuse 12:50 pm on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        I’m not an opera lover, but if I had to choose, I’d take opera over soap opera because who needs soap when he only takes a bath/shower once a year, whether he needs it or not?

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    • Elizabeth 6:04 pm on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I find Angelou’s quote confusing. What sense do you make of it?

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      • mistermuse 7:14 pm on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Perhaps the most common use of “Facts [to] obscure the truth” is political spin. See below:

        https://www.britannica.com/topic/political-spin

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        • Elizabeth 6:10 pm on February 23, 2020 Permalink

          Thank you. That makes sense. I really couldn’t understand her quote. Now I do.

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        • mistermuse 7:23 pm on February 23, 2020 Permalink

          You’re very welcome, Elizabeth. If Trump & Company were as good at telling the truth as they are at spinning and/or twisting it, his followers wouldn’t know what to believe….and it might even give them second thoughts (not that they do any profound thinking in the first place).

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    • mlrover 8:17 pm on February 22, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Helen Traubel was on to something,especially when one keeps in mind that most TV watchers consider the singers on “Idol” talented. They may be but they’re certainly not trained and wouldn’t know a well-structured measure from a mordent.

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      • mistermuse 11:00 am on February 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        I remember Helen Traubel well. Though a big (in more ways than one) opera star, she was no stuffed shirt — well, maybe physically, but not culturally — and made many guest appearances on TV back in the day, often on comedy shows like Jimmy Durante’s.

        As for today’s singers (and I mordently and mordantly use the term loosely), I can’t stand to listen to most of them, but as a product of today’s culture, what else would we expect? I suspect that some of them would’ve been good singers if they had grown up several generations ago….but not knowing any better, are they really to blame?

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    • Ashley 8:25 am on February 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Great quotes here! Some made me frown but mostly they made me smile. Can’t be bad and now the sun has come out! Hoooray!

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    • Silver Screenings 7:09 pm on February 23, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Voltaire’s comment on the opera made me laugh out loud. It sounds so irreverent!

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    • mistermuse 12:36 pm on February 24, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Every time I watch DUCK SOUP and A NIGHT AT THE OPERA, it’s amazing how funny Groucho’s lines still are today.

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    • arekhill1 1:45 pm on February 25, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Being alone is ok for some…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9ydw_aDMg

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    • literaryeyes 11:46 pm on February 25, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      I vote (ready to vote already) Mark Twain followed close by Huxley.

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      • mistermuse 10:16 am on February 26, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        I can’t argue with those votes, Mary. Another one I really like is the Lenin quote, because it goes a long way toward explaining why Trump got millions of votes.

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    • barkinginthedark 10:52 pm on March 5, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      here’s my original quote; “question is the answer.” continue…

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      • mistermuse 12:14 am on March 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the comment, Tony, but would you kindly answer a question that has puzzled me for some time: your comments always end with the word “continue…” but continue where? At first I thought that if I clicked “continue,” it was a link which led to something….but nothing happens. What do you intend by “continue”?

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    • barkinginthedark 5:16 am on March 6, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      i mean keep on going MM…keep on doing…just keep on. continue…

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    • kutukamus 2:08 am on March 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Especially love those ones by Traubel and Lenin. 🍸

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    • mistermuse 11:52 am on March 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Truth Be Told, the Lenin quote is my fav….but I like them all.

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    • annieasksyou 11:44 pm on March 16, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Hi, Mistermuse. I just stopped by to welcome you to annieasksyou; I’m delighted to have you join me. And since I love bad puns, dislike opera, and have written my share of tirades about a certain White House occupant, I am now following you as well. So cheers!

      Annie

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      • mistermuse 12:10 am on March 17, 2020 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the comment, about which I have just one quibble: I would call Trump the White House disaster, rather than White House occupant. 😉

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        • annieasksyou 9:25 am on March 17, 2020 Permalink

          I would agree—and even “disaster” doesn’t capture what his egomaniacal ineptitude has wrought on us now…

          But since we all need to keep our immune systems strong because of this plague he’s dramatically worsened, I’m putting a moratorium on myself to try to think of him as little as possible, focusing instead on things that cheer me—such as our budding new crocuses and the bird serenade outside my window.

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    • skullGhost 8:03 pm on April 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Simply amazing. And to add further, it seems this Lenin has captured the practical utilitarian essence of democracy well in those few words.

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    • mistermuse 8:13 pm on April 13, 2020 Permalink | Reply

      Ironic, but true.

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  • mistermuse 12:02 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Albert Einstein, , , , , , , truth, TV quiz shows,   

    TRUTH BE TOLD 

    When in doubt, tell the truth. –Mark Twain

    Truth be told, I just found out that July 7 was TELL THE TRUTH DAY.  Better late than never?  That may or may not be true, but today I’m in the mood to post, and at this “late” juncture, truth is doubtless as good a thesis as any (if you believe Mark Twain).

    Friends, I don’t claim to be in the same league as such legendary and current truth-tellers as Pinocchio and Donald Trump, but I am (almost) always in favor of telling the truth. In fact, one of my favorite TV quiz shows back in the day was TO TELL THE TRUTH. But before we go there, I need to set it up with a clip from a quiz show I featured in a previous post (I’VE GOT A SECRET)….the reason being that one of the panelists on the latter program (a humorist who is little-remembered today) plays a big part in the surprise ending of the TO TELL THE TRUTH clip, and it helps if you know he was once famous.

    Assuming you can abide a bit more truth-telling, I will close with some quotes on the subject:

    The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and simple. –Oscar Wilde

    Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. –Aldous Huxley

    If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. –Albert Einstein

    Beware of a half-truth: you may have gotten hold of the wrong half. –Evan Esar

    A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. –Charles Spurgeon

    All men are born truthful and die liars. –Luc de Clapiers

    Doubt thou the stars are fire,
    Doubt that the sun doth move.
    Doubt truth to be a liar,
    But never doubt I love.
    –William Shakespeare

     

     
    • GP Cox 6:45 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      My mom and her best friend had tickets for 3 to go to the taping of “To Tell the Truth”. It was interesting and fun, something I obviously still remember despite being so young.

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      • mistermuse 7:20 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I appreciate your comment, GP. You have the honor of being the first person I know who’s ever been to the taping of a TV program. Good show, old chap! 🙂

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        • GP Cox 7:43 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink

          How about that!! I also saw “What’s My LIne” and got a private tour of NBC in NYC [only because the secretary for Tom Synder was a childhood friend of my parents and I was in NYC to see the Pope and we ended up on the news that night.]

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    • Ricardo 11:11 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      “Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing the matter with this, except that it ain’t so.” Would that Mark Twain could be resurrected for this age of Trump.

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    • mistermuse 11:53 am on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      It’s too bad Trump’s nose doesn’t grow like Pinocchio’s every time he tells a lie. He’d have to get a nose job every day to cut it back to size, but at least he has so much money he wouldn’t have to worry if his health insurance didn’t cover it.

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    • Mark Scheel 4:28 pm on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      muse,

      Wow! That brings back some memories. But makes me feel really old. Well, I AM old! I note one famous quote you didn’t use–“Then you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” (I’ll leave the attribution to you.) ; – )

      Mark

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    • mistermuse 4:56 pm on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Mark, if you think those clips make you feel old, I was already in my twenties at that time. 😦

      As for the quote you noted, attribution is easy: I attribute it to Mark Scheel. 🙂

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    • BroadBlogs 7:46 pm on July 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      “Friends, I don’t claim to be in the same league as such legendary and current truth-tellers as Pinocchio and Donald Trump”

      Odd that his followers saw him as authentic. I guess authentic for them is a willingness to be hurtful to others. Or babbling on.

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      • mistermuse 12:12 am on July 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        “Authentic,” as in telling it like it is — but any fool can tell it like (he thinks) it is. By that standard, , we should admire Hitler or any “authentic” leader who tells it like (he thinks) it is.

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    • moorezart 11:25 am on July 21, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Reblogged this on From 1 Blogger 2 Another.

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  • mistermuse 12:01 am on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Greeks, , John Keats, ODE ON A GRECIAN URN, , , , , , , truth, ,   

    GRECIAN EARNS PLATO’S PLAUDITS; ‘REMAINS’ SILENT 

    “Beauty is truth, truth beauty — that is all
    Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.”
    –John Keats, from ODE ON A GRECIAN URN

    On this day in February, 399 BC (according to onthisday.com) occurred the fateful trial of the famed Grecian philosopher Socrates, of whom it is said that he didn’t put anything in writing during his lifetime — or even afterward, for that matter. This might lead one to think he was either paranoid or illiterate. By all odes, however, he was neither — otherwise his life/trial/death-by-hemlock would have earned him no esteem….and in theory, the following quotes attributed to Socrates might have been not only recorded by, but credited to, Plato (as well as others Greek to me):

    Wisdom begins in wonder.

    The unexamined life is not worth living.

    To find yourself, think for yourself.

    By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll become happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher.

    I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world.

    But why should Plato and a few of his fellow G(r)eeks get all the credit for handing down what Socrates supposedly said? I may not be quite as ancient as they, but I go back far enough to be able to confide with the utmost confidence that Socrates never denied saying the following:

    Wisdom begins in wonder….and ends the same way.

    There’s no fool like an old fool. (On the other hand, some of us “old fools” prefer to think of ourselves as misanthropically eccentric seniors.)

    It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness. (Or, you could just pay your electric bill on time.)

    My wife would talk to a wooden Indian. (That’s why I keep a wooden Indian around the house.)

    All’s well that ends well. (Well, I don’t know about that….but I suppose if it was good enough for the doomed Socrates, it’s good enough for the likes of Shakespeare and mistermuse.)

    THE END

     

     

     
    • linnetmoss 7:33 am on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      What the long-suffering Socrates actually said about wives, according to Xenophon (Symp. 2.10):
      “If that is your view, Socrates,” asked Antisthenes, “how does it come that you don’t practise what you preach by yourself educating Xanthippe, but live with a wife who is the hardest to get along with of all the women there are—yes, or all that ever were, I suspect, or ever will be?”

      “Because,” he replied, “I observe that men who wish to become expert horsemen do not get the most docile horses but rather those that are high-mettled, believing that if they can manage this kind, they will easily handle any other. My course is similar. Mankind at large is what I wish to deal and associate with; and so I have got her, well assured that if I can endure her, I shall have no difficulty in my relations with all the rest of human kind.”

      These words, in the judgment of the guests, did not go wide of the mark.

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    • Don Frankel 8:20 am on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Muse are you saying that Socrates was like Yogi in that he didn’t say all the things people say he said? Or was it just that there was no pen and paper as yet and he didn’t feel like hammering away with a chisel and a piece of stone? He thought it was just to crude.

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    • mistermuse 8:29 am on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks, Linnet — I appreciate your very interesting comment.

      From what I’ve read (admittedly limited) of the writings of Plato and Xenophon re Socrates, Plato’s were the more brilliant/less literal, and Xenophon’s the more prosaic….so, assuming that the latter took fewer or no liberties with Socrates’ words, “What the long-suffering Socrates actually said about wives” was indeed on the mark. However, whatever the “By all means, marry” quote lost in translation, length-and-literatim-wise, it apparently captured gist-wise.

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    • mistermuse 8:38 am on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Don, I think they had papyrus by Socrates’ time, but they definitely didn’t have a Yogi Berra. Too bad, because he was a man for the ages!

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    • arekhill1 12:01 pm on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      As our nation undergoes this period of fractious foolishness, Sr. Muse, reflect that it was old fools who elected one of their own as our leader.

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    • mistermuse 1:33 pm on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Apparently, they wanted one of their own kind in the White House, Ricardo (notice I said “they” instead of “old fools” because I disavow guilt by association).

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    • Colane Conundrum 4:57 pm on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I recall that Socrates called writing “the dead flower of speech.”

      I’m not sure if he was responding to my blog … or maybe he just wasn’t a good gardener?

      In any event, we’re lucky Plato recorded all of Socrates’s wisdom so future humanities students could groan about it in Philosophy 101. I can’t remember quite how they go, but I recall one where Socrates said “Don’t put words in my mouth!” while Plato scribbled away furiously, putting words in his mouth.

      Or something like that. I’m not sure; I didn’t do to well in humanities. Clearly.

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    • mistermuse 5:54 pm on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Clearly a Conundrum. I, on the other hand, might be labeled a Punundrum, judging by all the groans my writing seems to induce. It probably has something to do with a prophet being without honor in his own puntry (I know that’s not exactly what Jesus said, but Jesus, give me a break).

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    • literaryeyes 9:10 pm on February 22, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Good one: Wisdom begins in wonder….and ends the same way. And lots of confuciousness in between.

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  • mistermuse 4:36 pm on December 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , truth, , youth   

    WE HOLD THESE (REVISED) TRUTHS 

    Today, we shall consider that
    Mirror which we call truth,
    When we see that where we’re at
    Is years past the face of youth.

    Now, truth can be a revelation,
    Or in the cards we cash;
    Truth may deal in hesitation,
    Or may come in a flash.

    Far be it from me to tell you
    What you should/should not believe.
    Let’s just say you would do well to
    Neither youth, nor self, deceive.

     
    • Michaeline Montezinos 12:37 am on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      mistermuse, I liked your poem. The search for truth can be difficult. It is buried a pile of poor TV broadcating, the often deceitful social media and waves of stupid commentary. I am always on a quest to be true to myself. I began when I was about 7 years old.

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    • mistermuse 7:53 am on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      When you were 7 years old? You mean only 20 years ago? Who says most 20-somethings are shallow and immature!

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    • arekhill1 10:25 am on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Who’s saying I’m not shallow and immature? Age has nothing to do with it.

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    • mistermuse 3:00 pm on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      You’re probably right. According to the bible, Methuselah lived to the age of 969 and had 700 wives and 300 concubines. If nothing else, he was a glutton for punishment

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    • Don Frankel 4:14 pm on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “Beauty is truth and truth beauty. That is all ye need to know.” Supposedly.

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      • mistermuse 4:48 pm on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’ll go with “supposedly.” I need to know a lot more about computer viruses because my computer has become infected, and even my more-savvy wife (whose computer I’m on now) can’t cure it. Until it gets fixed, my computer use is going to be limited to when her computer is free, so MONEY: THE LOOT OF ALL EVIL may be my last post for a while.

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    • Michaeline Montezinos 5:49 pm on December 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Sorry to hear that your computer is on the fritz. mistermuse. You are bit off the numbers regarding my age. I do thank you for the compliment, however. I am 39 and in a holding pattern while flying above the airport, the final destination for every body. It may be a long wait since my family thinks I am getting younger than growing older. Must be in my genetic pool and all the clean living I have done since my gradustion. My eight grade graduation, that is. I did get a bit flirty in high school, I admit. That is the time when teenagers get to have some fun. Hope you get your computer fixed soon, Dear heart.

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  • mistermuse 1:28 pm on March 29, 2014 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: agnostics, , Arianna Huffington, , , cynics, , , , , , , skeptics, , truth,   

    SCOFFER, BUT WISER 

    I tend to be drawn more to the wisdom of those who question everything than to “accepted” wisdom, since no one knows everything — no one I know and trust, that is. But what of God, who (I was taught) does know everything. As an American, how could I not trust God? The proclamation IN GOD WE TRUST is all-inclusively bannered on our country’s legal tender –which, if you stop to think, seems an odd bearer for it, given the admonishment that money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10).

    Be that as it may, the thing about God is like the thing about truth — exactly whose God, whose truth are we talking about? To paraphrase the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, you’re entitled to your own God, your own truth — but not your own facts. If you take the discrepant God of divergent religions for a fact, how can a fact divided against itself stand?  Aren’t we left with the logic that no deity conceived by humans has a basis in fact? But you knew that …. right?

    I don’t believe in any religion’s God (which isn’t the same as not believing in a Creator), but if I did, why would I want to take the life of, or coerce, a man of a different faith — both of our faiths are, after all, only fallible beliefs. Better to take the measure of human folly, as observed and recorded by those who have questioned everything:

    The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunk man is happier than a sober one.  –George Bernard Shaw

    If absolute power corrupts absolutely, where does that leave God?  –George Deacon

    I don’t pray because I don’t want to bore God.  –Orson Welles

    When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.  —Emo Phillips

    Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable.  –Ambrose Bierce (THE DEVIL’S DICTIONARY)

    Many a long dispute among divines may be thus abridged: It is so. It is not so. It is so. It is not so.  –Ben Franklin 

    Well, you could become a Southern Baptist. I mean, instead of having to obey the Pope, you could just obey your husband.  –Arianna Huffington

    The only thing that stops God from sending a second flood is that the first one was useless.  –Nicolas Chamfort

    When I told the people of Northern Ireland that I was an atheist, a woman in the audience stood up and said, “Yes, but is it the God of the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in whom you don’t believe?”  –Quentin Crisp

    I too much respect the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world.  –Georges Duhamel

    Amen.

     

     
    • arekhill1 2:48 pm on March 29, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I think that it is obvious that if there is a God, He eats over the sink.

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    • mistermuse 7:54 pm on March 29, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Or maybe over the john. Either way, it all ends up down the drain.

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    • Don Frankel 3:38 am on March 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Reminds me of the time my cousin went to Ireland. She was in a Pub when she was asked if she was a Protestant or a Catholic. She said. “I’m Jewish.” To which she was asked was she a Jewish Protestant or a Jewish Catholic.

      “World without end. Amen.”.

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    • mistermuse 6:27 am on March 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Love your “cousin” story, Don. It’s the perfect example of a one-track mind.

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    • carmen 5:22 am on December 18, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      I think it makes more sense to believe that man made god(s) rather than the other way ’round.

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  • mistermuse 11:06 pm on March 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , Bernard Berenson, , Friedrich Nietzsche, , , Jerome K. Jerome, Lillian Hellman, Mahatma Gandhi., Pontius Pilate, , , , truth,   

    TRUE BE OR NOT TRUE BE…. 

    That is the question: “What is truth?”, as Pontius Pilate asked. In what sense did he ask it? It seems that Pilate did not wait for Jesus to answer, so a good guess is that he asked it rhetorically….and why not? Better men than Pilate have concluded that the truth of a thing is nothing more than what each of us believes it to be — religious beliefs being the supreme example, and killing/persecuting over religious differences being the supreme irony….as if it is necessarily so that belief equals truth to demand surrender to. Like Ira Gershwin, “I takes dat gospel whenever it’s pos’ple– but wid a grain of salt!”

    Many wise things have been said concerning the concept of truth, but I believe we must look outside of religion for most of the wise men and women who have said those wise things, just as we look beyond politicians for the deeper concepts that govern us. Here are some of these “outsiders” and their sayings that ring true to me:

    Between truth and the search for truth, I choose the second. -Bernard Berenson

    Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. -Albert Einstein

    Truth exists; only lies are invented. -Georges Braque

    There is no such source of error as the pursuit of absolute truth. – Samuel Butler

    Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley

    Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth. -Lillian Hellman

    The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven’t got it. -George Bernard Shaw

    It is always the best policy to speak the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar. -Jerome K. Jerome

    We occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of us pick ourselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. -Winston Churchill

    All things are subject to interpretation; whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth. -Friedrich Nietzsche

    An error does not become truth by means of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. -Mahatma Gandhi

    Would you believe that this treatise was brought to you by the same libertine who brought you yesterday’s less high-minded, but perhaps more uplifting, post MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE RAUNCH…. what can I say?

     
    • Don Frankel 8:44 am on March 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “Beauty is truth, truth beauty. That is all ye know on earth and all ye need to know.” If you follow this rule you won’t Fucks Funny.

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    • mistermuse 10:30 am on March 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Mel Blanc, of Bugs Bunny and “That’s all folks” fame, once needed “truth” to put one over on the Calif. Dept. of Motor Vehicles, which asked him if his license plate KMIT stood for a radio station (illegal in California). Blanc replied, “No, that’s actually an old Jewish expression, ‘know me in truth’.” What it really stood for was “kish mir im tuchis,” a Yiddish phrase meaning “Kiss my ass.”

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  • mistermuse 7:09 pm on January 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , christophen burns, deadly decisions, truth   

    I’M REVIEWING THE SITUATIONS 

    It is a pleasure, after the less-than-positive review posted 12/21/09, to give an unqualified “thumbs up” to DEADLY DECISIONS by Christophen Burns (Prometheus Books, Amherst, NY).

    The book’s sub-title is How False Knowledge Sank The Titanic, Blew Up The Shuttle, And Led America Into War, which is a synopsis of situations in which false knowledge prevailed in the decision-making leading to those (and other) preventable disasters. This is a book one wishes was required reading for every governmental & non-governmental authority whose decisions impact those they put at risk. Alas (as is too often the case), the very people who need to be open to the critical thinking prescribed in DEADLY DECISIONS are ostensibly least likely to read it, or take it to heart if they do read it.

    This discouraging observation is not only a shame, but a jeopardous shame, for (as Burns tells us in his book) dissonant information is particularly dangerous “because it brings the threat of confusion. The truth may make men free, but it’s certitude that makes them happy.” For some, in other words, holding on to one’s own “truth” at all costs trumps consideration of evidence to the contrary….even compelling evidence to the contrary. “The mind is wired for learning, not unlearning,” again quoting Burns.

    DEADLY DECISIONS will challenge your mindset if you’re heavily invested in the kind of thinking Burns exposes. Take up the challenge. Read this book. What are you afraid of losing?

     
    • tomgnh 8:33 am on January 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      If you want to follow up on this idea, check out “March of Folly” by Barbara Tuchman. She traces several truly stupid political decisions to try to understand the forces that lead to them despite arguments to the contrary.
      Her chapters on the Trojan Horse and Vietnam are particularly good.

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    • mistermuse 8:47 pm on January 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the heads-up, tomgnh. I’ll post a brief follow-up to my review, mentioning your suggestion of “March of Folly” as well as another book I’ve found to which reference could be made if anyone is interested in additional reading in this area. If you have a blog and would like me to mention it in my follow up, let me know. Thanks again.

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  • mistermuse 8:42 pm on December 3, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: authority, , truth   

    TRUTH BE TOLD 

    I have come to the conclusion that a person should never accept any statement or even fact as being the absolute truth…No statement should be believed merely because it has been made by an authority. –Hans Reichenbach

    Is an “authority” the same as an expert? Well, I claim to be neither, so feel free to ignore Reichenbach regarding the truth of MY statements. What makes someone an expert, anyway? Judging by how often the “experts” are wrong, how high can the standard be?

    Granted that anyone – even experts – can be mistaken, it’s laughable to call someone an expert who knows even less than you or I do. A prime example is the “Ask the expert” experts who guest on TV’s Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?. Yes, the program has had trivia whiz Ken Jennings of Jeopardy fame, but for every such real expert, they have multiple clueless celebrities (e.g. former congressman Tom DeLay) who haven’t enough sense to be embarrassed by the obvious ignorance their appearances reveal. But then, how many politicians value shame recognition over name recognition? By the way, if Tom DeLay ever opts out of the Republican party, a resurrected Know Nothing party would seem to be the perfect fit. Of course, if Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? called them guest celebrities instead of experts in the first place, their know problem would be no problem.

    I could go on, but enough is enough – and so I close without further DeLay.

     
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